queenelayliah;3293966 wrote:Hey you guys this is my first post in two years. Because of the pandemic I had to stop phone sex and get a “real job” that would provide me with a consistent income so that I didn’t become homeless. However I’m now sick of working for other people and I wanna get back to working for myself.
Since 2018, I had a goal of making a phone sex blog that I could use to advertise my character and drive traffic to myself. And after 4 long years I DID IT! I’m so proud of myself and I think its pretty fucking cute to say I have no damn design skills and know nothing about technology. However here the thing I have hit a wall and I don’t know what to do now.
The same barriers that stopped me from making a blog back in 2018 is now stopping me again. I’m so confused on multiple things big & little. It’s so overwhelming i just want to quit.
1) the legal side of things:
- aka 2257 law: where to keep the records ., how to keep my address private., domain who is., ip address tracking., how to make a privacy policy and terms of conditions.
2) the webmaster side of things such as: SEO., keywords, long tail and short tail., metadata and for the love of god what the fuck is a sitemap and how do I get one?!!
3) then I’m stuck on advertising: how do i drive traffic? How do I make posts that will bring traffic??
Okay then social media and then copyright and then watermarks and then how do i add pictures to my blog posts and give credit and if they naked pictures how do i stay legal? Then how do you add all of this information to the damn website it self.
Like I don't know how to be a social media manager., content creator., webmaster and adult marketer. I don't know what I’m doing!! Im only good at moaning on the phone for a few dollars. I need help but I don’t even know where to start.
ITS TOO MUCH! I cant even write all of this information down. This was a mistake a fucking mistake. I just want a cute little blog with a journal where I write about how wet my pussy is and to just call me if they also horny. Thats all i want. I dont want this extra stuff.
But guess what my blog is not appearing in bing or google and I dont know how to make it appear.
Gingerteacup;3293982 wrote:I have no idea about the legal side, but
3) then I’m stuck on advertising: how do i drive traffic? How do I make posts that will bring traffic??
I would create a Twitter page and link your blog in the 'website' section on your Twitter profile, then regularly put up pictures etc on your Twitter page...Your reach will be wider than hoping people will come across your blog via a general google search. Much less work, much less stressful, plus you still get to blog as Twitter links to it, and people can click on that link.
Also, the UK site Adult Work has a section to write blogs, post pictures etc, as well as upload erotica such as voice recordings. You can also do phone chat on there (and webcam). Not sure if you are US based however, as they don't accept models form the US sadly.
On Nite Flirt you can also write blogs I think, as part of a Goody Bag?
These sites already drive traffic to you and offer phone chat. x
innocentindian;3294071 wrote:Definitely THIS! Get on any social media you think will work with your style (twitter, tiktok, instagram, reddit, forums / boards for user-generated audio or erotic scripts) and post relevant content on there with a direct link to your blog / site pinned on your profile. It'll be easier to drive traffic to your site that way to start, instead of worrying about SEO and getting indexed by google.
Once you have visitors landing on your page from your social media, google will pick up your site eventually and start displaying it on search results. Then you can spend time researching SEO on youtube or hiring someone to help set up the technical site stuff so you can focus on the money making side (creating content, blogging, and advertising)
EDIT - I checked out your website and it looks good! If you're worried about adult nudity compliance, I suggest just posting softcore / lingerie / implied nude photos and keeping all explicit nude stuff behind a paywall for 18+. Also, I didn't see a link for a blog yet, I'm guessing you're still working on it before you post it on your site menu?
Also since your site is all about phone sex, I recommend adding some audio to your site + some short erotic text stories for visitors to sample your wares. Visual photos are great, but audiophiles definitely wanna hear the goodies as well as see them.
A quick note under your Availability / schedule page - it says 'no taboo phone sex' which at first made me confused and I thought you were stating that taboo is not allowed during phone sessions. Maybe reword something like 'anything goes phone sex' or 'as kinky as you want phone call ' or 'no limits phone sex' or something.
Houston_Sugar;3294178 wrote:*I'm sorry if any of this has been asked a trillion times. I've been searching for answers to my very specific questions and haven't been able to find anything.*
Life has been lifing, and I now have thousands of dollars in medical bills to pay, and it will be ongoing for the foreseeable future. What should I be doing to make $3000-4000+ per month (besides live camming or in-person SW)?
I'm on TTM & NF, and it's decent, but not enough to make a living. (I think I'd do better if I knew who to do findom, or any domination really).
SinCats & the likes are too extreme for me.
I can't wrap my head around PTVs, no one has ever bought a single one from me.
Is it too late to make money on OF?
Can I even make this much as a PSO?
Will audio clips help me get to my monthly goal? I will pay anyone who is willing to show me the way. I don't want to ever show my face. I'm okay showing my fully clothed body and feet. Is there a platform I should be on, that I'm not on?
Thank you in advance for taking the time to read and respond. :heartbeat
I feel like I'm drowning.
seashell;3294184 wrote:You absolutely can make that much with PSO. I'd suggest reading Amberly Rothfield's book about making money on Niteflirt. It will explain how to use PTV's and market yourself in great detail.
You're likely going to have to shift your strategies and really try some new things. Learning takes time, but it's well worth it financially.
I'm not doing PSO anymore, but I used to make about $4-5K/month from phone & content sales on Niteflirt. It used to be my only option due to crappy wifi connections lol.
Also with OnlyFans, there are great resources with lots of information here on the main OF thread, as well as on Reddit & YouTube.
kortneykay;3294224 wrote:The key is to working as many sites as possible. Sign up to 5 pso sites, log in all day to each and you'll have combined income.
I'mEveToo;3296326 wrote:Do you have only 1 character on NF and TTM? You can increase your income by having 3. Try to make each character different from the others so you're attracting a different demographic of callers. If you're using yourself for photo content, you can make different characters by disguising yourself with wigs and makeup or even just only using photos of just body parts with no face or only lips
Make listings for each character in every category you character reasonably fits in. One listing in one category won't get you seen often enough.
I'mEveToo;3296361 wrote:You can use purchased photo content on Niteflirt. It's hard to find photo sets that aren't already being used on NF and TTM and if it's already in use by other Flirts, callers will know it's not you. But a lot of callers already know many Flirts use purchased content and they don't care. What matters to them is if you're good on the phone.
I rarely have anyone ask me to cam. If someone does, I just tell them it's not something I want to do because I don't want to worry about being recorded and having video of me posted on other sites around the internet.
I'mEveToo;3296361 wrote:You can use purchased photo content on Niteflirt. It's hard to find photo sets that aren't already being used on NF and TTM and if it's already in use by other Flirts, callers will know it's not you. But a lot of callers already know many Flirts use purchased content and they don't care. What matters to them is if you're good on the phone.
I rarely have anyone ask me to cam. If someone does, I just tell them it's not something I want to do because I don't want to worry about being recorded and having video of me posted on other sites around the internet.
I'mEveToo;3296505 wrote:Guys know that you offer cam if you have a listing in one of the Phone With Cam sections. Some will still ask for it even if you don't but most of them know if you don't have a listing in that category, you're unlikely to do cam just for them.
Kristen_Krystal;3296654 wrote:I use a smart phone for taking my pso calls & about a month ago I started getting an issue with not being able to hear the audio files that ask me to press 1 or 2.
Its happening intermittently on every site I'm on now. It started on Dommeline, then TTM & now its happening on Adult work & its driving me crazy.
I've run every diagnostic test available on my phone, re-started/updated it & cleared the phone cache
I thought it might be an app causing the issue so today I put my phone in SafeMode & it's still happening.
I've also noticed that if I get a call that can't get through because I can't accept it & he tries again then it will get through the second time but the sound for me is terrible & for the customer, it's usually fine they say.
I am thinking that the problem is either with my phone hardware or network because it's happening on three different platforms but I wanted to check if anyone else is having or ever had this issue before & how did you fix it, please?
space_cowgirl;3296928 wrote:Is anyone here working on Phone Sex Royalty? Thinking of signing up...
Growlerpussy;3296931 wrote:Didn't see any info about how and what the payout is. Only a few girls on the site and none of em online.
Do they have traffic at all or do we have to generate the traffic?
I don't like sites where the costumers can buy blocks. If they have a weird fetish or wanna play something i'm not ok with, i just can't hang up because they paid for 10 or more minutes.
Percy;3297224 wrote:I started PSO in March but I am an ex PSO from years ago and cam model.
I chose the perfect model and I have a young voice.
I realized there was a lot of men who had women who would not talk to them because of extreme taboos. Some were into "young" and #2 bathroom fetishes, some even into castration. So I just started catering to the extreme fetishes and am a model who will talk about anything. About 50% of my calls are taboo. The rest are a mix of sissy, cuck, training of some kind, cool old guy, lonely old man.
I make a living doing this now, I spend about 12 hours a day logged in, from the comfort of my home, using a photo of someone who isn't me, and some checks are more than others. Some guys are sex addicts and go crazy and spend on me then get guilty and never come back. I make new regulars every day. I have been within the top 3 to 4 models on my site since day 1. and I am starting to be #1 more often because I am working more hours, to grab more regulars.
So, for a two week period the lowest payout I had was about 1300 dollars. And that's with taking 2 days off per week, or some days not being able to do my full time. My highest payout was almost 3000 for a two week period. My average is 1500 every two weeks and I take 35% and send it to the tax man. I have been able to pay off bills, I went on vacation, but I am married and the money I make goes toward other things. I have 3 thousand in savings and that is after a month long trip to Florida last month.
Staying off the phone for a month, taking a call here and there, when I came home, I made about $600 in 8 hours from my regs because they tipped me and had missed me. I don't want other sites, I tried them, not my thing. I like the one I am on, it works for me but I see a lot of models it doesn't work for. And callers are fickle, maybe they will like you, maybe not. Some don't even know what they want. No blogging, no webcam, no twitter, I just log on and talk. And i log in the same hours every day I log in, EXCEPT that I will log in other times too if I want to work that extra group that I don't normally talk to.
I answer the phone with "hello" like my Mom is calling. And I just...talk.
Tonight is a doozie, stupid men trying to get me to call them lol. NO! I think they think their 2 calls with an added $10 tip will do it.
justanothercamgirl;3297225 wrote:You are logged into for 12 hours a day?
You are freaking amazing and inspirational! I wish I had half of your work ethic.
Percy;3297226 wrote:Yes 12 hours. I have a Plantronics ear bud that rests in my left ear. Bluetooth, my phone in my pocket, i clean and watch tv and take calls. Some of that time I am in front of my computer it feels like a customer service job. I make more than Amazon and the clientele is better.
There seems to be a slump right now. I think it is a summer slump, guys are out doing recreational activities.
izshadow;3297228 wrote:Wow! I wish I was making that. I've been doing both cams and phones for about 20 years now. The cam is when I am physically am but the phones, I'm logged in 24/7. Literally. Except when I am super tired and know I'm sleep through the phone or I have to leave to run errands or have an appointment. I pay my bills but never get that extra to pay off debt or vacation. I'm sure I could be better. Maybe I'm just lazy and not imitative and burnt out haha.
Percy;3297235 wrote:I thin it is just the person. I have always been great at public speaking, I am pretty well versed in a lot of subjects due to my education (life experience is also a plus) so I can chit chat about anything. I also was a dominatrix on cam, so those fetishes that are hard to get down, I got them down years ago. Patience is key, but it is kind of an art form. Any person can perfect it. I suggest a lower end company first, to understand WHAT men want (all of my calls have been men) and understand gay men (A lot of gay men call me) and then learn about toys and listen. No starting off moaning oh baby oh baby, they don't like it. Talk to them like a friend, always smile as it shines through with your voice, say hello, thanks for calling, what are you up to? Listen to clues. If you don't know how to talk about something google memes about it LOL. I had to do that with sissies for ever. I literally just went down the meme list on google and read them out loud and put my twist on it.
I won't say you need to do taboo calls. But, if you work a line that allows taboo, you WILL make money if you take them. More money. A lot of men say "women won't talk to me about this". I always say, hey, to be here I must be an adult, to talk here you must be an adult, it's just role play. We are two adults, we can talk about anything, there is no thought police. I find most are men who were hurt and they use it as a form of therapy to flip the script in their head, to "hurt" someone the way they were. Read on it, it's a real thing people do. They will open up if you ask WHY DO YOU LIKE THIS SCENERIO??? Honestly, these men lie to me, it's a fantasy world. Maybe they are a CEO, and maybe they are in their Mom's basement. I have had necro, honestly you can really get a loyal following for castration, people will do drugs and talk, a lot like their step daughter, have a sister brother fantasy...who knows why. So this whole faction of men have limited options.
Women should only do what they feel comfy with. But the bread and butter is voice, it must be nice, doesn't matter if it's mature, don't pick a 20 year old model and say you are 25. Pick an older but in shape model and say you are 35 and a Mom. Men are into the experience you give. Your greeting needs to be short, sweet, and show off your voice. Talk a little about your interests, but keep it PG13. Always thank them, say you had a great time, and I always say, hey add me to your favorites so we can chat again it was fun! Learn to fake an orgasm. Give yourself one and how do you sound? Replicate it. I've never once had an orgasm or gotten turned on, they think I am getting off. The idea is to get THEM off, on their terms, or just chat. I only orgasm if it's more of a vanilla, hot and heavy sex talk -y call. Then i compliment them like crazy and say hey, thanks for the orgasm, hahaha. Very playful.
So yeah that is all I have as far as pointers but I totally say start with a not so high up company because at first you'll not make it with an established company as the ones with years experience will take the customers and you'll feel bad. Start with a per min hold time company, then apply elsewhere. You still may not float elsewhere. it's really a strange industry because it's all voice on lines that don't offer cam. And never say that model is you, just admit it. Say, I have kids, I'm a teacher, they understand. Say what you look like, how you compare to her. They totally get it.
Percy;3297420 wrote:Before I did ANYTHING adult on my own I would consult an attorney to get the legality straight. A couple hundred bucks can save you thousands and possibly jail. I mean you have so many thinga to think about like, what you post, who owns what, is it your pics or a models? Age of model? Can you make nude photos available to the public or do you need diclaimers so you can avoid showing it ti underage viewers. I know PH anyone strolls on but it does say you need to be 18 to view. I mean, all those little things that do NOTHING to really keep underage people off adult sites still do serve a legal purpose to protect those offering content.
See a pro, for your own protection. I am starting my own site for my model and I am seeking an attorney. I deff would NOT put up any nude pics. Good luck!
Percy;3297429 wrote:I wanted to post this because I cannot stand swindlers and time wasters.
I had a caller who wanted 1.5 hrs first time with me. I accepted. He wanted extreme fetish which I did, playing 2 characters and he was annoyingly telling me how other models don't talk to him. Anyway he did not spend all his paid for time with me and left me no tip. He actually requested his unpaid time $5 back which would usually be a tip.
So, I waited for him to call back. He booked another 1.5 hours and I did not know who it was. It was him. I cut him off and said I have to refund him as his calls require tips and he is taking up time from my regular tippers. He said "Oh you cannot handle the content". I said, no I can handle the call, but you are taking uo my time when regulars want to call me and they TIP me.
So he acted mad, refunded him, blocked him. And I was happily getting ny 15 min regs with $5 tips. And I made more.
Assh*le. I just think if you ask a lot from a model you need to tip. If you do a long call you need to tip. If you want extreme sick fetish you need tip. And the audacity to ask for their unused time back ��. So I loved telling him he was cheap and not worth my time. Does not happen often. I like how these people whether on the phone or cam or stripping think you owe them your time because they pay you.