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Angelfaced
net neutrality and webcam modeling
ok im suprised noone has brought this up yet but since time warner and comcast is trying to merge now, this topic is getting even more serious. im seriously terrified about this. is the end of net neutrality going to put us out of work ???
02-13-2014, 08:56 PMKatyBoleyn
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I don't think so, I think it will just add another middle-man to the equation that will want a cut in order for us to work. So we'll have the big box site, the pay processor, and now the "monopoly fee". The box sites, which already pass along their expenses to us, will have even more to pass along in order for them to keep their original profit margins. Porn won't go away.
02-13-2014, 09:07 PMSam38g
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Hell, no.
Porn is the only thing left making them money. Otherwise they would be in the red.

People need high speed internet for PORN, gaming & movies.

Men watch cams on their ipad, iphones & such. There is no financial gain for them to STOP porn. Credit card companies make WAY to much money off of cam sites & processing the higher cost they charge adult sites for it aka SIN TAX. NONE of them want to lose even 1% of income.

In adult where there is a will there is a way & we will adapt. Men are still horny.

Smooches,
Sam
02-13-2014, 11:30 PMBlovely
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I think it was Ojenni who posted a video of a documentary and it mentioned phone companies and hotels making millions off of porn. They def aren't going to want to mess up their cash flow.
02-20-2014, 04:35 PMMelonie
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This is indeed a relevant question. The key issue of course is that, at present, net neutrality spreads the true costs of internet bandwidth over a wide range of internet customers in a manner where low bandwidth customers heavily subsidize high bandwidth customers. Or to cite an analogy, at present the net neutrality rules set ISP customer monthly rates in a manner that would exist if every 'residential' electricity customer had no meter and was simply billed the same number of dollars per month. Under the 'unmetered' electric bill analogy, camgirls and webcam customers operating electric ranges, hot tubs, spotlights, etc., and regular customers with gas ranges and a few LED light bulbs, wind up paying the same monthly electric bill. Same is true of webcam hosts as 'commercial' customers, where a Laundromat operating dozens of electric washers and dryers, and a store with a few lights and a cash register, both pay the same monthly electric bill.

Putting an end to net neutrality would essentially result in establishing 'metered' monthly billing for bandwidth usage in a manner similar to the way electricity is currently billed based on power usage. Those who consume more must pay more, and those who consume less are able to pay less.

See for some details of the true economics relative to Netflix

In many ways, adult webcam hosts and camgirls are in the same financial position as Netflix, in that the true costs to internet backbone providers of supplying the necessary internet bandwidth to webcam hosts, and the true cost to ISP's to provide the necessary bandwidth to camgirls and cam customers, may actually be 5-10 times as high as the amounts that webcam hosts, camgirls, and webcam customers are presently being billed for. At present, other 'individual' customers of ISP's, and other 'business' customers of internet backbone providers, are heavily subsidizing camgirls, webcam customers, and adult webcam hosts.

Should net neutrality be thrown overboard, all of a sudden those subsidies would be reduced or eliminated. This in turn could mean that webcam hosts, camgirls, and webcam customers could face significantly higher monthly bandwidth bills. Additionally, to pay for the increased internet backbone bandwidth charges, adult webcam hosts would have to increase their 'share' of customer money ( which would necessarily decrease the percentage payout to camgirls ).

As is arguably the case with Netflix, there simply isn't enough sales volume / revenues available in the adult webcam business model to allow it to continue to operate profitably in the absence of present net neutrality mandated 'subsidies'. How many camgirls and webcam customers are going to be able to afford a $200+ monthly bill from their ISP for a high bandwidth connection capable of HD video streaming ? How many camgirls are going to be able to continue to devote time to create webcam host 'programming' if the payout percentage is reduced from 30% to 15% ?
02-20-2014, 05:13 PMCamigirl
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Angelfaced View Post
ok im suprised noone has brought this up yet but since time warner and comcast is trying to merge now, this topic is getting even more serious. im seriously terrified about this. is the end of net neutrality going to put us out of work ???
Funny since I was having issues with Comcast while working Chaturbate last night. I was on the phone with them because they did not upgrade my net to their fastest speed!!
Someone mentioned they may be a problem in the future due to the merge, dunno. Would not worry about it, we bring in big bucks for them.
05-15-2014, 10:54 AMMelonie
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just a news update ... the FCC just approved higher priced 'fast lane' for US internet

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05-16-2014, 01:33 PMMelonie
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more info today ... from the Wall St. Journal -


(snip)"In a move that has sharply divided technology giants over how to keep the Internet open, the Federal Communications Commission voted Thursday to advance rules that would let broadband providers charge companies for preferential handling of Web traffic. ***

Mr. Wheeler's proposal also has generated a broad outcry from activists who say he hasn't gone far enough and conservatives who oppose any new Internet rules. Some of the activists showed up at Thursday's FCC meeting, and were escorted out after disrupting the proceedings.

Mr. Wheeler's plan is an attempt to thread the needle through all these camps in the debate over "net neutrality"—the concept that all Internet traffic should be treated equally—but his approach has found few fans since it was unveiled.

Telecom lawyers say that by opening the door to the paid deals for traffic handling, Mr. Wheeler has a better shot at satisfying the courts, which have twice struck down previous FCC attempts at Internet rules. An appeals court in January essentially indicated to the commission that if it wanted to ban the deals, it would have to reclassify broadband as a public utility. Leaving the door open to the agreements is a way for the commission to impose the no-blocking rule while stopping short of the reclassification.

Mr. Wheeler said there are currently no rules to prevent broadband providers from blocking access to or discriminating against websites, and that his plan is the fastest way to fill the void created by the court's January decision. ***

"There is one Internet. It must be fast, it must be robust, and it must be open," Mr. Wheeler said. "The prospect of a gatekeeper choosing winners and losers on the Internet is unacceptable."

The two Republican commissioners opposed the rules as unnecessary.

"Prioritization is not a bad word," Commissioner Michael O'Rielly said. "It is a necessary component of reasonable network management."

Companies that rely on broadband to reach consumers expressed alarm.

Brian Fargo, CEO of videogame developer InXile Entertainment, said the FCC's move "has the ability to stifle opportunity for smaller companies." While his company's games are mostly downloaded from the Web today, he sees the gaming industry moving to a Web-streaming model that will require more bandwidth. The agenda of broadband providers, he said, "is naturally to make more money" by charging tolls.

Mr. Wheeler repeatedly vowed to use all tools at his disposal to prevent Internet providers from striking deals that would shut out startups and smaller companies that can't afford to pay for preferential treatment.

He said consumers pay for a specific amount of bandwidth when they subscribe to broadband Internet access, and that the commission won't allow broadband providers to throttle that connection or limit how consumers use it.

"The potential for there to be some kind of 'fast lane' available to only a few has many people concerned. Personally, I don't like the idea that the Internet could become divided into 'haves' and 'have-nots,'" Mr. Wheeler said. "I will work to see that doesn't happen."

Activists have pushed the FCC in recent weeks to reclassify broadband as a utility, which would subject it to much greater regulation.

Mr. Wheeler Thursday put the reclassification option on the table, and welcomed input on what a stronger regulatory regime should look like, though his proposal sticks with the lighter touch approach.

"Tom Wheeler spoke passionately about the open Internet, but his rousing rhetoric doesn't match the reality of his proposal. The only way to accomplish the chairman's goals is to reclassify Internet service providers as common carriers," Craig Aaron, CEO of the open-media advocacy group Free Press said.

Broadband providers, though, say reclassification would be devastating for their industry.

"Treating broadband as a utility-like…service would reverse years of settled precedent, dry up investment in broadband deployment and network upgrades, and result in protracted litigation and marketplace uncertainty," said National Cable and Telecommunications Association President Michael Powell, a former FCC chairman.

Verizon, whose legal challenge against the FCC's last set of rules governing treatment of Web traffic led to them being struck down by a federal appeals court earlier this year, has pushed for the right to charge an extra fee for a fast lane."(snip)


Unfortunately, this provides more new questions than answers to previous questions !!! Having US internet service being reclassified as a 'public utility' ... thus coming under price and 'content' regulation by state public service commissions ... is a Pandora's Box that should not be opened !!!
09-10-2014, 07:23 AMsexysusie
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I believe the last day to speak out on this is September 15th. Scary, scary thinking on the future of our business :-/
09-10-2014, 10:39 AMJackAlexander
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Thanks for bumping this thread and thank you for creating and contributing to it. It is an issue for all of us. It is easy to take action hunnies. I am going to do my part to protect the thing thing that feeds me, good my internet.

Our friends at the Electronic Frontier Foundation have made it easy for you and everyone you know to take some sort of action. You can read more about it here https://dearfcc.org/?from=banner and take action here https://dearfcc.org/?from=banner.

Apparently today is internet slow down for protesting to raise awareness. Sept. 15th is the end of the public comment period. PLEASE help raise awareness and help our voices be heard. I will end up taking a bit out of our income the way I see it.

I am going to put this on my Facebook and all of my twitter accounts and urge everyone I know to take simple action and educate them.
07-12-2017, 04:42 PMJackAlexander
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It is that time again ladies and gents!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcQKtL2pY8M
07-13-2017, 01:48 PMSam38g
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Yes, it is. Until they can tax & control the web it will always be an issue.
07-14-2017, 08:42 AMo0Pepper0o
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Fuck that net neutrality forever.
without it we dont get open internet and we suffer globally. its so much more power than just paying for bandwith or metered internet usage. it will give ISPs the power to filter the web. do you have your own indie site? good luck if we lose net neutrality!
and yes expect to make 40-30% cut after this from 50% sites. its going to be awful on many levels and not just for sex workers. If we get really lucky the US will go all censorship and decide porn is evil and have the ability to get rid of it. They have the correct president right no for such wild censorship after all..currently our governments have no ability to govern the internet in such a way because all sites are treatd equaly. it would ruin what makes the internet so cool and epic.