Dancers in NYC Urban Strip Clubs are now trying to go on strike / raise awareness

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Dancers in NYC Urban Clubs are now attempting to go on strike and fight back at how the clubs are treating them like peasants next to the striptenders. some dancers want the striptenders to go back to being bartenders, some just want the striptenders to stop stealing dancers money off of the stage. some dancers just want management to allow them to pick up their money off the floor instead of forcing them to give it to the striptenders. racism against black dancers is also finally being discussed. promoters are mocking the dancers because theyre too concerned with continuing to put striptenders on a pedestal to get them in bed, and managers are dancing around the subject because they are cowards. more information can be found on instagram at:

@thegizellemarie (popular dancer in NYC, she has started the movement and will be on power105.1 tonight at 8pm to share the story)

and props to @sospyda (even though she works in LA she made a shout out to the NYC girls for standing up against the striptender culture)
@therealdjkayslay has also come forward and stated that he witnessed discrimination against black dancers when he had a huge event in one club.
@iamcardib stated in her interview with djvlad that clubs do not like to allow black dancers to become striptenders(since striptender is the higher title).

i hope this movement continues and will continue to be followed by strippers in other areas of the country! #MakeNYCUrbanClubsGreatAgain #nycstripperstrike

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I posted this in another thread ::

Once a stripper gets all her work done and she is hot enough, she gets "promoted" to bartender. Those bartenders are often making 2g a night twerking, serving hennesy, and posting pics on IG. The problem is they have WAY too many bartenders and they hold them to a higher standard to the point that the dancers, oftentimes (with the acception of Aces) are subpar or just not attractive --they need to get housefees someway. The bartenders are constantly being rained on and sincethe stage is behind the bartender if the money is intended for the dancer(s) on stage, the money doesn't always land on the stage and instead lands in "bartender territory". I've heard the stories from dancers that work there, it's really really bad. The bartenders are extremely stuck up and say shit like "I'm not a stripper, I'm a BARTENDER", but like you said wear the tiniest outfit (management makes them wear it) and twerk for dollars. I don't blame them for suing. Urban club dancers that don't want to bartend or don't have the qualifications to bartend (most the time extremely exaggerated BBL's, lipos, tits, lips) are literally left out to rot. And the dancers that DO do well are Instafamous and also post pics/videos all night/day long in hopes that when they get called to stage they get rained on hundreds/thousands. The guys save their money for THOSE girls and the bartenders. If you're a beautiful girl but not IG famous or don't have a lot of work done, you're not gonna get rained on. Even if you do have a lot of work done,if you don't have a name for yourself you're just another girl in the hoodclub with a big butt. They wanna feel like you're someone or something before they make it rain on you.

Promoters are ALL pieces of shit. They just wanna fuck the bartenders/strippers. The strippers want to become bartenders because it is a higher title that often comes with more money so they will fuck the promoter to get that position. I've heard of the bartenders taking the money off the stage or just scooping up the money that falls into bartender territory which is super unfair because you basically have to be a star baseball player to be able to throw the money OVER the bartender's heads and over bartender territory and have it ALL land on the stage, it's just not gonna happen. Furthermore, the dancers are the ones who have to pay to work. The bartenders have to buy those little outfits, yes, but technically they are employees, are they not? I'm going to be watching this lawsuit carefully. It's about damn time.. Also, you're right, I've only ever seen one black bartender and she only works sporadically, not regularly and she has a huge IG following. It's mostly latina girls with lighter brown skin and I've seen a couple white girls, the token asian girl whom we all know lol, that's about it.

I just saw on her Instagram that they're planning a sit down meeting tomorrow for dancers, shotgirls and bartenders. Are any of you NYC ladies gonna go?

No, I don't work in those clubs but I am watching closely. That power 105.1 interview gave me a splitting headache so im staying far away lol.

i wanna go but im going to work (and NOT in any of these boycotted clubs lol eff them) im hoping i can go to the next one

omg i just watched it on her ig live. he was so disrespectful. they say hes close with a few of the promoters and fucked some bartenders so thats why hes taking that side.

Shit, I'd go if I was in NYC. These bartenders dress like strippers, hop on the pole and shake their ass like strippers, get rained on like strippers, are promoted like strippers, but they aren't disrobing or paying a house fee. So they're getting all the benefits of being a stripper (including stripper money) and none of the drawbacks. Must be a sweet gig, but nah ...that's fucked up. Then some of them have the nerve to go around with this holier-than-thou, "how dare you think I'm a dirty stripper" attitude which is essentially the pot calling the kettle black when you consider where the bulk of their money comes from. May these strippers and their lawyers BANK off this lawsuit because this is ridiculous -- stripping is many of these girls' livelihood and they shouldn't have to compete with bartenders. If you want to be half naked and dance on a pole, become a stripper. If you want to serve drinks, be a bartender, but this "striptender" phenomenon needs to die ...and FAST.

That live broadcast got me so heated. Im not even in NYC. I hope they can get another spot with someone else because that guy was garbage and clearly protecting his own interest. How can DJ SELF have a show on the Power 105platform if that's how he treats guest? A guy called in and called them all THOTS!! And then DJ SELF responded "Thank you" HE FUCKING AGREED WITH HIM. They deserve better than that.

With that said I think you all really need to focus on the core issues and keep tpettiness to a minimum. Because I think in these first stages the initiative is getting lost and being categorized as Bitches Be Hatin. Its more than that. Its just the beginning and how you start influences the full impact

Make no mistake, this is white supremacy in action. 'Latinas' are white. Only in America would people who are Spanish be considered not white. They are just as European in ethnic background and genetically they are predominantly white. I say this because these Latino owner clubs HAVE NEVER hired Black women beyond a token. If you look into the hiring practices throughout South and Central American (including the Caribbean) their racist hiring practices are far more severe than American whites. So that is part of the dynamic.

Strippers need to strip. And bartenders need to bartend. Period.

This happens all over the country in urban clubs, but it seems like NYC has it the worst. I don't see their "uprising" being successful. We are dealing with fucking coons here. The coon mentality is what started the "foreign/Latina" girls only bullshit. You know it's bad when they won't even hire the lightskin black girls.

Eventually, these clubs will turn into basically Hooters with girls barely clothed shaking asses. Stuck up due to their IG following, and all looking the same cause of dumb hiring practices.

Where's the fun in that? Honestly, Instagram ruined stripping in a way. It's no longer about milking one man out of his $ and making his fantasies come true. It's a fucking popularity contest and opportunity for both girls and customers to stunt. And with only 10% of the club actually spending $ and the rest just there for the show.... ugh

It's self-hate on the part of black people. Like, Kodak Black's dumb ass saying he doesn't like dark skin girls. Has he seen himself?!??? Lighter and non-black equals superior. Until this mentality dies, this will continue in the black community. I fucking hate it.

So I just got on Instagram to check out the movement.... kinda what I expected. A dancer in my city (in the South) who is up and coming and making pretty big moves has in her bio: All natural, natural will win overall, etc.

Referring to natural bodies v. Plastic surgery. Real body or fake body, black or foreign... whatever. I wish that women could just realize it's FUCKING US that are bringing the customers in. Us females!! And try to find a way to get along and empower each other instead of constantly clawing at each other on the way to the top.

Idk.... everything in life is a fucking conflict lately. Trump, mass shootings, football, and now stripping?!?? I can't take it anymore. I can't take where this country is headed. I just try and avoid the news more and more.

I'm exhausted. Rant over. I love ALL of y'all. White, black... real booty or fake lololol... good night

Latina's/Hispanics can be any race, mixed race, etc.

....The U.S. Census Bureau makes no distinction between the two terms. It defines Hispanics and Latinos as "persons who trace their origin or descent to Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Spanish speaking Central and South America countries, and other Spanish cultures."

"Hispanic origin can be viewed as the heritage, nationality, lineage, or country of birth of the person or the person’s parents or ancestors before arriving in the United States. People who identify as Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish may be any race."

https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/d3249c.pdf
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... atina.html
https://www.census.gov/topics/populatio ... rigin.html

But knowing how weird some people are about race and superiority, I bet it is an advantage for some to feel the need to self-identify as white race hispanic - even when they are not

Depending on the club owners ancestry - if they don't hire darker skinned women (who possibly have African ancestry) then they would be like Lego suggests - Self Loathing

Thtat's exactly it! This is a white supremacy move as old as time. Pit the Blacks against each other, Get self hating Black men to throw money at white Latinas, get them into truly believing Latinos are better. Use the Black women and their culture to bring the money in then steal it. Period. They could set up the stage for dancers by bringing it from behind the bar. That way these bartenders would not even be in between dancer and customer. But they like this physical set up. I'd like to see ALL of the dancers leave for a week or two. NO PERFORMERS. Self hating Black men and racist Latinos can sit right there and watch an empty stage or a stage with bartenders lumbering around. It won't be cute for more than a day. No pole tricks, no rhythm, and a stage full of store bough asses.....no bueno.

I'm not going to play that game. Their culture is a white supremacist culture. The vast majority of them are a mix of Euro Spanish and Native blood. They are from a racist society and bring that with them to America. Take Dominicans as an example. They are the one group that has a fairly high admixture of African DNA yet they are rabidly racist because their culture is a white supremacist culture. They have been guilty of ETHNIC CLEANSING of Black Haitians and recently revived that policy and program.

Check this out:
There are approximately 150 million people of African descent in Latin America, representing just over 30% of the total population and more than 40% of the poor. Advocates for racial equality in Latin America testify statistically and anecdotally to the fact that Afro-descendants face the frequent perception that they are undesirable elements of society, and are marginalized in politics, media, public life, the job market, and education systems.


Increasingly critiqued over the past 20 years, the myth holds that Latin America’s racial mixture (mestizaje/mestiçagem) creates racial harmony and inherently guards against racial discord and inequality. This denial of racism is often rooted in a belief system that contrasts itself to the history of Jim Crow legislation in the United States. There is no more important place to understand the persistence of race-based marginalization in Latin America than in the increasingly well documented practices of labor market discrimination.

According to George Reid Andrews’ Afro-Latin America, studies of hiring patterns across the region have found employers very reluctant to hire Afro-descendants for managerial, professional, or technical positions, for white-collar clerical jobs, and even for low-level jobs in retail commerce and sales. The small black middle class that exists in Latin America is primarily employed by national government agencies. Once hired, Afro-descendants are located in low-status positions, with lower rates of promotion and advancement and higher rates of dismissal.
https://nacla.org/article/revealing-rac ... -exclusion

^^^^^^^^^^This is the mentality that Latinos bring as they simultaneously play the race card and expect protective treatment. So not only are the white and a mix of white and Native genetically, they also have a more vicious and thorough practice of racial discrimination in their countries than American bigots do!

For more clarity I'll let Wiki do the talking because what they are genetically has led to Black people thinking all Latinos are on the same side when that's simply not the case. Their social behavior, their management 'style' is white supremacist regardless of color. They may play the game with more finesse and stealth than racist white Americans but the game being played is the same:

Being white is a term that emerged from a tradition of racial classification that developed as Europeans colonized large parts of the world and employed classificatory systems to distinguish themselves from the local inhabitants. However, while most present-day racial classifications include a concept of being white that is ideologically connected to European heritage and specific phenotypic and biological features associated with European heritage, there are differences in how people are classified. These differences arise from the various historical processes and social contexts in which a given racial classification is used. As Latin America is characterized by differing histories and social contexts, there is also variance in the perception of whiteness throughout Latin America.[30]

According to Peter Wade specialist in race concepts of Latin America

...racial categories and racial ideologies are not simply those that elaborate social constructions on the basis of phenotypical variation or ideas about innate difference but those that do so using the particular aspects of phenotypical variation that were worked into vital signifiers of difference during European colonial encounters with others.[31]

In many parts of Latin America being white is more a matter of socio-economic status than specific phenotypic traits, and it is often said that in Latin America "money whitens"[32] Within Latin America there are variations in how racial boundaries have been defined. In Argentina, for example, the notion of mixture has been downplayed, resulting in the country having no real mestizo group. Alternately, in countries like Mexico and Brazil mixture has been emphasized as fundamental for nation-building, resulting in a large group of bi-racial mestizos, in Mexico, or tri-racial pardos, in Brazil,[33][34] who are considered neither fully white nor fully non-white.[35]

Unlike in the United States where ancestry may be used exclusively to define race, by the 1970s, Latin American scholars came to agree that race in Latin America could not be understood as the "genetic composition of individuals" but instead must be "based upon a combination of cultural, social, and somatic considerations". In Latin America, a person's ancestry may not be decisive in racial classification. For example, full-blooded siblings can often be classified as belonging to different races (Harris 1964).[36][37]

For these reasons the distinction between "white" and "mixed", and between "mixed" and "black" and "indigenous", is largely subjective and situational, meaning that any attempt to classify by discrete racial categories is fraught with problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Latin_Americans

Just found this on tumblr: https://bossip.com/1597498/nycstrippers ... artenders/

OMFG. Go to the 3rd page on this link and watch the video of the bartender blatantly stealing money right off the strippers stage over and over again!!! WTF bitch!!!!

I really hope the strippers win a victory on this. This whole thing is infuriating!!!

Here is the video I'm talking about:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BapiGlzHy-7/

I am so pissed right now. I am not a violent person but I would be tempted to do something really bad to that bartender that might have me thrown in jail.

the crazy thing about that is that thats not even considered stealing in NY, because the customers were actually making it rain on the bartenders. so the bartenders are allowed and expected to do that. ive had that happen to me many times, while the customers threw nothing for me.

whats even worse now, is that some clubs, like Lust, ive heard they dont even allow the dancers to gather money from the floor. whatever lands on the floor has to go to the bartenders. those are the actual RULES that managers and security enforce. its insanity

i completely agree. i saw the blatant self hate and racism from the first night i worked at one of these clubs.. and im white! but ive repeatedly seen pretty black dancers with natural fat asses and small waists(or at least natural looking) make nothing after putting on a good show, while the palest skinned striptenders made 500-3000 from the stiffest pathetic attempts at twerking. and most of them have HORRIBLE botched, disproportionate ass jobs. i do not understand how these men continue to glorify these women. im going to be trying to go to the meetings and find a way to speak up because i want people to hear it from a white woman. im sick of these idiots accusing black dancers of being "jealous" jealous of what?? all these spanish women got surgery to LOOK like the black dancers. and theyre doing their race a disservice, because there are plenty of pretty spanish women out there with natural fat asses and lips etc, that know how to move, but when these striptenders get surgery to get a sara baartman ass they werent born with that doesnt match their skinny legs, while simultaneously talking down about black dancers, they make themselves look like clowns.

That stage should not be behind a bar. It's blocking the stage. Those bartenders shouldn't be allowed to dress like that.
Idk how that bartender didn't get her face kicked in for stealing.

You would think melting pot NY wouldn't discriminate anyone, esp in an urban club. I'm sorry dark dancers get this treatment. Makes me mad for them. Bullshit. I have seen 3 GORGEOUS flawless black women get turned down in the city, bc one auditioning is enough. These girls had beautiful faces, bodies, well dressed to the yards. They looked like mini Naomi Cambell(I couldn't stop staring)...Then you see spongebob white blond with a belly get hired on the spot. Fuck. Everyone should have a tight body.

I am sorry. This business is disgraceful at times.

This is ridiculous.

If ever go as a customer with a whale to visit a stripclub, it's gonna be a dark choclate parade.

does @lexynyc still post here? I know she works in NY/NJ. Would love to hear her input on this

That shit would have made the news in Miami! "Stripper Stabs Bartender With Stiletto" But most places the bar is separate from the stage.

Okay but if many of those in Hispanic culture (specifically in the Northeast as it relates to this thread topic) succumb to racial supremacy/colorism then don't you find it ironic though that the vast majority of Hispanics who identify as Black or Afro-Latino are in Northeast region of the United States?

Not to say that supremacy is only the self-loathing type but there is a problem with people who think like Kodak Black, Wacka Flacka - people who have flat out said PUBLICLY they hate dark skinned black women or that they are not black ---- And their asses are fucking black like wtf?!?!?
Also reminds me of that dude in the racist ter thread who claimed he was "not black but hispanic" and didn't even know or didn't want to claim his own heritage.

I'm just merely pointing out that if hispanics/latinos can be of any race, and you notice some of the people in their culture practicing racist actions then it is possible that its coming from a racial supremacy based on the idea that whatever race they identify with is better than the one they are trying to oppress (most likely those with African ancestry and or dark skin). This can even come from self-loathing black hispanics.

"States like New York, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Connecticut have some of the highest percentages of Hispanics identifying as Black, where up to 25% of Hispanics identify as black, compared to 2.5% of Hispanics nationwide....." (source = ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2013 American Community Survey 1-Year Estimates". US Census Bureau. 2013. Archived from the original on January 2, 2016)

A video of Cardi B discussing the issues with race in the strip club - cue to 5:50

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First off, I am honored. <3

Here's a slightly edited copypasta from another thread that I saw before this one.



The few black girls that regularly work at the "popping" clubs are IG famous and make money so they're not going to complain. And imo, nowadays hiring standards have changed for dancers. A lot of dancers have fled to Jersey or Staten Island but the clubs need house fee so they'll let damn near anybody work (knowing that girl won't make any money). Back when Sue's was one of the best clubs, they wouldn't hire a dark skinned girl unless she was a 9 or 10. They'd hire a white girl if she was a 3 and a Latina if she was a 4. Now, the big clubs let anybody off the street work so long as they aren't obese and have the house fee upfront. The smaller clubs like TrapHouse would do the same if they had the space. If dancers are trying to work at a club that is being handled by a promoter for that particular night, then it's going to be rough for a black girl to work because there are only like 5 big strip club promoters/groups and they'll make a list of 20-50 girls for the night. Big Boy, Dinero, Ed (kingofstripclubs__), and Allcitymontz do not like black girls working their nights unless they are like Jhonni Blaze. Strike Sinatra and Tone Byrd usually have mostly black girls working their nights. As far as getting hired as a house girl, most of these clubs are desperate for dancers and would happily higher whoever walks in the door. I've seen 80 pound obvious drug addicts at Angels in Queens which is something you'd have never seen at that kind of club years ago. That club (as well as Sue's before it closed) had tons of very young looking girls who didn't even own stripper shoes yet. They just hire anybody now. As far as the racist ass customers, they're not going to change unless they start getting shamed. It's not the strip club's fault that a bunch of black men in NYC are self hating and would happily tip a bouncer before they tip a dancer with their mother's complexion.




I spent years working NYC and eventually stopped because it was just not worth it anymore especially because I live in NJ. It changed completely. Years ago when Heavens on Monday nights was a thing, those were the golden days. There were still nearly naked bartenders but those girls were helpful to the club and to the dancers. They were what I call the A-squad of bartenders. They used to refuse to wear thongs. They had self respect and would tell the promoters that they'd only wear outfits that had full bottoms. They were embarrassed to shake their ass behind the bar for a shower. They didn't want to twerk and they didn't want to get recorded. They didn't want to be strippers and prided themselves on not doing what strippers do. The bartenders and the dancers at Heavens used to make thousands every Monday. Customers would shower a dancer and the bartender would brush the money off the bar or wherever so the dancer could easily get it. Customers would shower a bartender and the dancer on stage would brush that money off the stage so the bartender could get it. It was perfect. It was a bunch of big fish respecting each other and looking out for each other all while filling their own garbage bags with singles. Those days are LONG gone.




Now, there aren't too many A-squad girls left. There are a bunch of C-squad girls who are just Latina women that have extreme surgeries. Then there are a plethora of D-Squad and F-squad girls that are only working that night because they slept with the promoter. These women have no shame and really, the A-squad girls have no shame now either. I was at Lust and saw a bartender whose outfit consisted of a thong and pasties. She just had her breasts hanging out all night. These desperate broads nowadays would work butt naked if the promoter told them to and the promoters would tell them to in a heartbeat if it were legal. The bartenders now have no shame when it comes to dancing in front of their customers either.




In that #nycstripperstrike hoopla, there was an F-squad bartender who was arguing with either her partner (they work in pairs) or a dancer about money. The bartender was like "That was all my money! My boyfriend threw it!" That's just one example but all of the bartenders outside of the A-squad are like that. They have no customers so they bring their significant other in to sit at their bar all night and tip them. Just fucking stay home. Why even go to "work" just so your man can throw you $500 and you can give $250 of that to your partner? I really don't get it. Back during the Heavens on Monday era, those bartenders actually brought in customers that they didn't live with so those guys tipped everybody. That's why the bartenders are promoted on flyers and whatnot because they (once upon a time) were the main ones bringing in the best customers. They were better promoters than the actual promoters. Strippers used to essentially follow the best bartenders from club to club because where the A-squad girls went, so did the money.


Now, these bartenders are good for nothing but being exploited by the promoters/management to show as much skin as possible to get likes for the club's instagram. The bartenders should be on strike too. Don't they wonder why every week their outfits are more and more revealing? We're at the point now where some are wearing a thong and body paint. It's fucking ridiculous. That isn't the girl's idea, it's the idea of the club management who treats these women like nothing but surgically enhanced sex parts that need to be shown in all their glory on social media. Seriously, these women are out here spending thousands of dollars on surgery just to show everything on some strip club's Instagram page. The few customers that they do bring in are their man/friend and would tip them if they were wearing a ski jacket and snow pants. But no, they can't be clothed because the promoters want them nearly nude. Why would random customers need to come in to see any of these women when they are all on social media a thong away from being in their birthday suit? That's right, the customers don't need to come and see them because they've been overexposed (often by the club who is all too happy to photograph and post these women in body paint or whatever). That's why all of the customers around the bar nowadays are the bartenders' baby daddy/boyfriend/ex boyfriend/future boyfriend/sugar daddy/Instagram stalker/etc etc who are coming in to give her and only her some money. Then she gets showered with money he was going to use to pay their rent and the dancer on stage is pissed. It's really a lose lose situation here. The dancers are losing because these customers are barely customers and the struggle bartenders are losing because they could have sat their behinds home and had the guy hand them that money instead of spending $60 on an outfit, $50 on makeup, $200 on a lacefront, and then giving half of whatever they make to their partner. On top of that, the bartenders have to give a percentage to the barbacks which is why you'll see barbacks swiping money off stage to give it to the bartender.




I don't even have an issue with the general bartender culture in NYC because it can and did work, it just doesn't work when there are no standards for the bartenders. I think it will get worse because these promoters keep giving jobs to girls that blow them rather than girls that are actually decent bartenders and bring out customers. Let me be clear, NONE of the bartenders at these clubs are real bartenders. They don't even make drinks. The long islands are premixed because all they can do is sell bottles and make a Henny and coke for example. However, there used to be bartenders that were useful for bringing generous customers to the club to enjoy the scenery and hang out, whereas now those customers are barely existent and the guys are coming in essentially to have a date with their chosen bartender. By the end of the night, good luck even getting a drink at some of these clubs because the bartenders are all engrossed in their flavor of the night. It's insane but I still have fond memories of ~4 years ago when the bartenders weren't like this. Things can go back to how they were if they start hiring bartenders that will be A-squad girls, not D-squad ones that want to be bartenders because they think they'll be the next Bernice Burgos when in reality they will struggle to make money and have to resort to their man getting a second job as a professional chair warmer on the nights that they work. Do I think the clubs will do this? Nope. They have little reason to and the collective NYC bartenders (with the help of promoters and management) have cheapened themselves to the point where I don't think there's any going back to the good old days. Customers now expect the bartenders to dress a certain way, carry themselves a certain way, and to dance on command on camera once the band is off the singles.


My issue with NYC (and I haven't seen this mentioned at all on Instagram) is the rule that Lust and Starlets have about stage money. I worked at Lust for Star's party (sometime over the summer) and I was shocked to see wtf was going on there. I went on stage and this customer showered me. He told me to go on stage so he could throw money at me so there was no confusion as to who this money belonged to. Most of what he threw landed on the floor. I hopped off stage to pick it up (like I have in NYC thousands of times in the past) and these two D-squad bar girls were like "Uhhh, what are you doing?" I said "Uhh, picking up my money" and they were like "That's ours. What lands on the floor is for bartenders and what lands on the stage is for dancers". I was gobsmacked. I went in the back to the house mom to ask her wtf this bullshit rule was and she said "Yeah, I don't think it's right. I'm going to have to talk to management about it". I left and the next day the manager texted me asking when I was coming back. I told him I was done with NY. Prior to me leaving, Graciii3 was there and Shonn Greene was about to make it rain like $2k on her. I was on stage as well as a couple other girls. Security started screaming and cursing at us to get off the stage so Shonn could throw the money and Gracie could get every dollar. It was unbelievable. Had I brought a customer that was going to throw me $1k, do you think security would tell the bartenders to move or would they get to stay where they are and keep like $400 of my money that lands on the floor? Then people that don't know any better ask why strippers don't bring customers to the club like the bartenders do. Why the hell would we when the club is designed to screw us and give our money to the bartenders? Why bring in a guy to shower me if I'm only going to get to keep the money that lands on stage? I don't know if they've changed that rule yet but it's the most insane thing I've ever heard at work. I guess it's beneficial for a dancer that NEVER gets showered to be able to pick up some scraps from a bartender but for dancers that do get showered, it's absurd and will result in her getting less of her hard earned money 10 out of 10 times. The bartenders didn't make this rule, they are pawns just like dancers are. The club is responsible for making their strip joint a terrible work environment for actual strippers.




I feel bad for anyone that is stuck (or thinks they're stuck) working in NYC. The grass is greener elsewhere. And trains/buses go to Jersey so if you have the time, I would start commuting. Hell, Squeeze would be a cheap Uber for many because it's right in Weehawken. Back before I started driving, I took a $12 Megabus from NYC to Onyx in Philly. You have to go to where you make money, period. Some dancers still make money in NY and good for them but for those that don't, NYC is not the be-all and end-all. There's no good reason to keep paying high house fees to make peanuts in the outer boroughs. There are more clubs nearby than the ones popular on Instagram. Check out tuscl.net for clubs and use Hopstop.com to find out how to get where you need to go if you don't drive.

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LexyNYC girl you should talk to some online sites about getting published. What you wrote was broken down so perfectly.

This thing is getting so much press. Thats a good thing. Maybe this will get someone who's great at facilitating strikes and understands Adultwork will help out.

http://www.businessinsider.com/nyc-stri ... t-2017-11/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... a4b3aa5161

I just thought about something else while watching it rain on bartenders..that shit is unsanitary af. Money is filthy and its falling all over the ice. Thats gross.

Amen! This needs acknowledgement! The clubs need to realize that they're nothing without dancers, unless they want to create their own spin off of a strip club except bartenders do all the pouring, serving, and stripping, and they cutout the middlemen of actual strippers who are background noise/not getting tipped. I hate how there are uneducated civilians out there thinking this is an issue of, "oh the strippers are just mad because they aren't cute and making money, and the bartenders are" ...please. I worked with bartenders who were like this here in Miami but it never got to the point where they were taking away the majority of my income. I can't even imagine what these girls are going through.

I'm so glad this thread exists and that the strike is still going. Regardless of what the clubs on IG are posting it seems like they are hurting financially. I haven't been in since auditioning a year or two back. Trying to audition in urban clubs after wanting to take a break from white clubs was honestly scarring lol. Being told by promoters that I would have to prove my worth sexually, or that I would be better off escorting for a few months at first to get my body done because I'm a 5 now but I could be a 9 with bigger breasts and ass. Said on IG or in person at auditions. This industry of course requires some thick skin but its hard when it keeps getting reiterated that who you are authentically is not enough to even get hired let alone get money / be successful is scarring. I mentioned in the past also that at white clubs (i.e.: NY Dolls) I was blocked from the door from auditioning because management did not know I was black on the phone.

Reading everyones posts and following the hashtag on IG shows me that these experiences aren't unique to myself, and that we all shouldn't let the ideas and opinions of others dictate our success or our self image. Legit for about a year I quit dancing/camming/hustling...everything because I didn't think that I looked the part. This is how crazy this has gotten, at least for me and the girls I know. I'm still trepidatious about returning but I miss the lifestyle.

We should get in where we fit in. Don't give them their house fees if they treat you like a third rate person just because you aren't willing to fuck change your body. I want my breasts done myself, and sleeping with customers/coworkers/promoters is fine - do what you want! but it should not have to be a pre-requisit.

There's a list of clubs someone posted about their hiring practices/treatment of dancers, but it looks like it was deleted. If I find I will repost.

Those "promoters" are the scum of the earth and nothing surprises me with them. They have WAY too much leverage in the clubs. They are the reason girls run to get those back alley butt shots because they don't have the money yet to do a BBL. SMH.

^^^ those shots are tragic, they look tragic, they are hell on the immune system. They're popular in Toronto too. Started seeing them almost eight years ago. Girls used to go to ATL to get them done but people started performing them here. So sad.

Update:
Lust hires black dancers but some promoters segregate the nights by race...yes really in 2017. I also heard that Angels, Traphouse and Sugar Daddy's also does the same now. If you are dark skinned you will most likely have to fight about which nights you are allowed to go on. They blatantly only put light skinned women or Latina women in the club during celebrity nights, so I would avoid those clubs all together and continue the boycott there. Starlets do not hire dark skinned women anymore.

The only truly diverse (body type, race, complexion) mixed urban club in NYC is Cityscapes.

traphouse is now closed . also, cityscapes has been iffy too. although they are more accepting to black dancers, the owner is disrespectful, apparently one of the managers punched a dancer in her face a few weeks ago, and the owner held her friends downstairs trying to prevent them from calling the cops. he also blocks dancers on instagram if theyre vocal about their support of the strike smh i think theyre banned from the club too. there was a dancer who worked day shift for a long time there that he banned just because she spoke out in support of the strike. i really wish the city would let sin city re open! and sues! mount vernon city council keeps blocking them or something

There's definitely way more consistent and concentrated money here in NYC than LA. But it's not a cake-walk, for sure.

If you feel pressured into sleeping with anyone affiliated with the club, it constitutes sexual harassment. Just because you are a sex worker does not mean that sexual coercion and/or harassment is part of your job description. I think that in an area or a place where there is good money potential and high competition for those jobs as to make each dancer easily expendable, the dancers forget that they have certain rights, be it labor rights, right to be free from sexual harassment, physical assault from customers, etc.